Really the amount of content & the layout is amazing. Just by reading it, it probably one of my favorite hack ever. Will definitively play it quite a lot when I find the time.
May I ask where that Kibin (機敏) for Dexterity / Agility comes from? I mean, Chikara (力) for Strength / Power is sort of all right in this context, and so is Kiai (気合) for Willpower / Fighting Spirit; but I am wondering about using Kibin (機敏) here. Is there a specific reason behind choosing that certain word?
I had found it used for "Agile" but I could be viewing it in the wrong context. I have Kiyosa in my notes as well, though I'm not sure how I settled on Kibin. Is there a better word for it? (File is ready for editing!) -- Thanks!
I'm just curious, really. For reference, in D&D, STR is called Kinryoku (筋力) and DEX is Binshouryoku / Binshōryoku (敏捷力); while in CoC, STR is also called Kinryoku (筋力) likewise, and DEX is Binshousei / Binshōsei (敏捷性), etc.
Oh, and what about Ryu as a currency? Is it perhaps supposed to be a fictional version of the original Ryou / Ryō (両)?
・On pages 10, 15 and 113 (4), the Japanese word for Hunter is Yakuzaishi (meaning Herbalist), while that for the actual Herbalist is Kusushi. Now, both words mean Herbalist, and it is up to you which one to keep, but the word for Hunter should be fixed. As a reference, on page 18 and 19, the Japanese word for Herbalist is Yakuzaishi (could be Kusushi as well), while that for Hunter is Ryoshi. This is correct, although the proper transliteration of Ryoshi (猟師) would be either Ryoushi or Ryōshi. (Speaking of which, as I mentioned previously, for the so-called Romanisation of Japanese words, I would strongly advise choosing a single transliteration method and sticking to it consistently.)
・On pages 10, 15, 115 (2) and 116 (5), the Japanese word for Performer has a typo. That Gwinoujin should be Geinoujin (芸能人), as it is correctly on page 21.
Question on Hunter (Ryoushi) - I'm adding a background for fisherman, but it looks like that has the same translation. Is there a different term for either that could apply? Thanks!
Indeed, when transliterated, that word for hunter (猟師) and fisherman (漁師) would be the very same. Well, in fact there are many words for both, and I’m not entirely sure which ones would be the most proper (chronologically speaking), but here is a few:
・Hunter:Karyuudo / Karyūdo (狩人 or 猟人), Karibito (also 狩人 or 猟人), Shuryousha / Shuryōsha (狩猟者)
Amazing!!! Would be possible to get some kind of Card Character Sheet? I haven't seen many sheets using Feudal Japan theme, it would be nice! Plus I love using cards, I was thinking to print by myself the complete Bestiary in card format to use it.
Thanks! Character sheet is in the works for the next version (as well as some additional cleaning up and stuff) but I'm a big fan of cards and other supplements to help move the game along. Good suggestion, I'll look into it and keep it in mind when putting the character sheet together.
Awesome, I'm hoping there's value in this even for folks who want to worldbuild outside of the game.
For feedback, any is appreciated, but specifically if the worldbuilding tools are well organized, complete enough, and make sense. Spent a lot of time trying to settle on order of things for flow purposes so want to make sure it all works. Thanks!
A piece of linguistic advice, if I may: Choose a single transliteration method and stick to that consistently. As you might be aware, there are several methods for the so-called romanisation of Japanese words. For example, depending on the method, the word 浪人 can be transcribed as rounin (literally), rōnin, ronin or even as rohnin; much like the word 妖怪 can be transcribed as youkai (literally), yōkai, yokai or yohkai as well. Now, once you picked one, whichever it may be, you should apply that one for each and every word, accordingly. For example, if you choose to use the rōnin, ryōshi, kōfu, etc. format, then yatou should be yatō and sougiya should be sōgiya too; and vice versa (speaking of which, among the Human NPC’s, rōnin is ronin instead). Similarly, words like sohei, wako, shakujo or bo should be sōhei / souhei, wakō / wakou, shakujō / shakujou and bō / bou, respectively. (Well, personally, I would not endorse using letters with macron and/or circumflex diacritics, and highly prefer the literal transliteration instead.)
Also, some cultural remarks on certain words:
・Bandit (Yatou): yatō / yatou (野盗) does mean bandit or brigand, indeed (literally, “plains robber” or “field thief”), but I would suggest considering sanzoku (山賊) instead.
・Cleric (Shinshoku): shinshoku (神職) is a specific term, referring to Shintō Priesthood; while the Cleric’s weapon, the shakujō (錫杖), is a traditional Buddhist weapon (khakkhara, in Sanskrit). For Cleric, consider using some other words like seishokusha (聖職者), sōryo / souryo (僧侶), shisai (司祭), etc. instead. Note: Since the game is supposed to be set in the Japan’s feudal period (during the 12th to 19th centuries, that is), both religions as well as their various syncretic forms can be relevant.
・Gambler (Bakuchiuchi): bakuchiuchi (博奕打ち) is a professional gambler, expressively. Also, consider some other words like tobakushi (賭博師), etc. instead.
・Herbalist (Kusushi): kusushi (医師 / 薬師) is simply an obsolete word for doctor or healer (including herbal medicine). Also, consider some other words like honzōgakusha / honzougakusha (本草学者), honzōka / honzouka (本草家), kanpōi / kanpoui (漢方医), yakuzaishi (薬剤師), etc. instead.
・Merchant (Shāngrén): shāngrén is the Chinese reading of the word 商人, of which the Japanese reading is shōnin / shounin. Also, consider some other words like gyōsha / gyousha (業者), chōnin / chounin (町人), etc. instead.
・Performer (Sarugaku): sarugaku (猿楽) is a specific term, referring to the Noh Theatre of the Kamakura and Muromachi periods (especially during the 11th to 14th centuries), while the game is supposed to be set in the Japan’s feudal era (during the 12th to 19th centuries, that is). Consider some other words like geinōjin / geinoujin (芸能人), engisha (演技者), etc. instead.
・Servant (Meshitsukai): meshitsukai (召使) does mean servant or menial, indeed; although such words might imply different nuances than their equivalents in certain cultures. Also, consider some other words like shimobe (下部), kerai (家来), etc. instead.
・Undertaker (Sougiya): Although funerals and graves do exist in Japan, Western-style burials employing funeral directors and morticians are relatively modern inventions (compared to the game’s supposed setting). Sougiya (葬儀屋) is a specific term, referring to the latter; which seems to be confirmed by the character’s weapon: a Shovel. I would suggest considering some other words like onbō / onbou (隠亡) [cemetery guard / crematorium worker], hakamori (墓守り) [gravekeeper], hakahori (墓掘り) [gravedigger], etc. instead.
・Tetsu Katana (Iron Sword): This sounds like a weirdly awkward combination of words; plus if you use tekkō (鉄甲) for iron knuckles and tessen (鉄扇) for iron fan, then for iron sword, tekken (鉄剣) would be the most obvious and proper choice.
・Ō-yoroi Armor: ō-yoroi (大鎧) means “great armour” or “big armour”; yoroi (鎧) might suffice in itself.
Please note that I have no intention to criticise or nit-pick here. On the contrary, I would fully understand if you are not interested in such details, but since I do like the basic idea, I just thought I would comment on this particular aspect of it.
Woah dang this is incredible, thank you! These are exactly the kind of details that push the limits of my admittedly mainstream, generic, western based knowledge and that I absolutely want to get right. Definitely taking all of this into account for next edits (coming soon because of formatting issues in v0.4). Certainly feel free to let me know any other things that stand out to you, but may I also reach out for additional input if I have questions? Thank you!
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Really the amount of content & the layout is amazing. Just by reading it, it probably one of my favorite hack ever. Will definitively play it quite a lot when I find the time.
May I ask where that Kibin (機敏) for Dexterity / Agility comes from? I mean, Chikara (力) for Strength / Power is sort of all right in this context, and so is Kiai (気合) for Willpower / Fighting Spirit; but I am wondering about using Kibin (機敏) here. Is there a specific reason behind choosing that certain word?
I had found it used for "Agile" but I could be viewing it in the wrong context. I have Kiyosa in my notes as well, though I'm not sure how I settled on Kibin. Is there a better word for it? (File is ready for editing!) -- Thanks!
I'm just curious, really. For reference, in D&D, STR is called Kinryoku (筋力) and DEX is Binshouryoku / Binshōryoku (敏捷力); while in CoC, STR is also called Kinryoku (筋力) likewise, and DEX is Binshousei / Binshōsei (敏捷性), etc.
Oh, and what about Ryu as a currency? Is it perhaps supposed to be a fictional version of the original Ryou / Ryō (両)?
I like those for the abilities, will likely update. If it's good enough for D&D and CoC...
And good gravy, I did that with Ryo everywhere, didn't I? No idea how I got that wrong throughout, I know better. Thank you!
You can check the Japanese version of Cairn too if you need a reference. https://oozejar.itch.io/cairn-ja/devlog/704656/-translation-update
For example:
頑健 Genken STR
敏捷 Binsho DEX
意思 Ishi WIL
Woah dang, that’s right! The community has already delivered. Thanks!
What an extensive, complete, and inspired work! Really cool to see Block, Dodge, Parry inspire new games like this. Congratulations on the release!
Thank you! BDP is a fantastic book, really helps add depth while keeping the rules lite. And how could I NOT borrow rules for Dueling?
Just 2 minor remarks:
・On pages 10, 15 and 113 (4), the Japanese word for Hunter is Yakuzaishi (meaning Herbalist), while that for the actual Herbalist is Kusushi. Now, both words mean Herbalist, and it is up to you which one to keep, but the word for Hunter should be fixed. As a reference, on page 18 and 19, the Japanese word for Herbalist is Yakuzaishi (could be Kusushi as well), while that for Hunter is Ryoshi. This is correct, although the proper transliteration of Ryoshi (猟師) would be either Ryoushi or Ryōshi. (Speaking of which, as I mentioned previously, for the so-called Romanisation of Japanese words, I would strongly advise choosing a single transliteration method and sticking to it consistently.)
・On pages 10, 15, 115 (2) and 116 (5), the Japanese word for Performer has a typo. That Gwinoujin should be Geinoujin (芸能人), as it is correctly on page 21.
You are AWESOME! Thank you!
Question on Hunter (Ryoushi) - I'm adding a background for fisherman, but it looks like that has the same translation. Is there a different term for either that could apply? Thanks!
Indeed, when transliterated, that word for hunter (猟師) and fisherman (漁師) would be the very same. Well, in fact there are many words for both, and I’m not entirely sure which ones would be the most proper (chronologically speaking), but here is a few:
・Hunter: Karyuudo / Karyūdo (狩人 or 猟人), Karibito (also 狩人 or 猟人), Shuryousha / Shuryōsha (狩猟者)
・Fisherman: Gyofu (漁夫 or 漁父), Gyomin (漁民), Gyogyousha / Gyogyōsha (漁業者), Gyosen’in (漁船員)
Alternatively, you could keep Ryoushi / Ryōshi for just one of them (I would advise for the Fisherman), and use some of the above for the other.
Here is some for the other 3:
・Farmer: Nouka / Nōka (農家); also called Noumin / Nōmin (農民), Hyakushou / Hyakushō (百姓)
・Mountain Ascetic: Yamabushi (山伏); also called Nobushi (野臥 or 野伏)
・Tea Master: Sajin or Chajin (茶人); also called Sadouka / Sadōka (茶道家), Cha-no-Shisou / Cha-no-Shishō (茶の師匠), O-Tsume (御詰)
Hot damn, thanks!
I need some help.. I didn't understand the numbers in the Encounters by Terrain Type table, in page 78..
Where should those numbers take me?
That’s my mistake. I was reworking encounters and had pulled them from the book. Not sure why I left the chart in there tho.
Here are the encounters tables that will be in v0.8 which I’m hoping to release by the end of September. Hope these help!
https://jmp.sh/s/eN4dLr4vEr5rTdV3aztH
Ooooh those clearly help! 😁
Thank you very much.
This is excellent both as a Feudal Japan game and as a Cairn hack. Go ahead, can’t wait for the final product
Wow, thank you!
Amazing!!! Would be possible to get some kind of Card Character Sheet? I haven't seen many sheets using Feudal Japan theme, it would be nice! Plus I love using cards, I was thinking to print by myself the complete Bestiary in card format to use it.
Thanks! Character sheet is in the works for the next version (as well as some additional cleaning up and stuff) but I'm a big fan of cards and other supplements to help move the game along. Good suggestion, I'll look into it and keep it in mind when putting the character sheet together.
Very much interested in this probably going to use this for some of my solo world building.
Is their any particular playtest feedback you're looking for currently?
Awesome, I'm hoping there's value in this even for folks who want to worldbuild outside of the game.
For feedback, any is appreciated, but specifically if the worldbuilding tools are well organized, complete enough, and make sense. Spent a lot of time trying to settle on order of things for flow purposes so want to make sure it all works. Thanks!
A piece of linguistic advice, if I may: Choose a single transliteration method and stick to that consistently. As you might be aware, there are several methods for the so-called romanisation of Japanese words. For example, depending on the method, the word 浪人 can be transcribed as rounin (literally), rōnin, ronin or even as rohnin; much like the word 妖怪 can be transcribed as youkai (literally), yōkai, yokai or yohkai as well. Now, once you picked one, whichever it may be, you should apply that one for each and every word, accordingly. For example, if you choose to use the rōnin, ryōshi, kōfu, etc. format, then yatou should be yatō and sougiya should be sōgiya too; and vice versa (speaking of which, among the Human NPC’s, rōnin is ronin instead). Similarly, words like sohei, wako, shakujo or bo should be sōhei / souhei, wakō / wakou, shakujō / shakujou and bō / bou, respectively. (Well, personally, I would not endorse using letters with macron and/or circumflex diacritics, and highly prefer the literal transliteration instead.)
Also, some cultural remarks on certain words:
・Bandit (Yatou): yatō / yatou (野盗) does mean bandit or brigand, indeed (literally, “plains robber” or “field thief”), but I would suggest considering sanzoku (山賊) instead.
・Cleric (Shinshoku): shinshoku (神職) is a specific term, referring to Shintō Priesthood; while the Cleric’s weapon, the shakujō (錫杖), is a traditional Buddhist weapon (khakkhara, in Sanskrit). For Cleric, consider using some other words like seishokusha (聖職者), sōryo / souryo (僧侶), shisai (司祭), etc. instead. Note: Since the game is supposed to be set in the Japan’s feudal period (during the 12th to 19th centuries, that is), both religions as well as their various syncretic forms can be relevant.
・Gambler (Bakuchiuchi): bakuchiuchi (博奕打ち) is a professional gambler, expressively. Also, consider some other words like tobakushi (賭博師), etc. instead.
・Herbalist (Kusushi): kusushi (医師 / 薬師) is simply an obsolete word for doctor or healer (including herbal medicine). Also, consider some other words like honzōgakusha / honzougakusha (本草学者), honzōka / honzouka (本草家), kanpōi / kanpoui (漢方医), yakuzaishi (薬剤師), etc. instead.
・Merchant (Shāngrén): shāngrén is the Chinese reading of the word 商人, of which the Japanese reading is shōnin / shounin. Also, consider some other words like gyōsha / gyousha (業者), chōnin / chounin (町人), etc. instead.
・Performer (Sarugaku): sarugaku (猿楽) is a specific term, referring to the Noh Theatre of the Kamakura and Muromachi periods (especially during the 11th to 14th centuries), while the game is supposed to be set in the Japan’s feudal era (during the 12th to 19th centuries, that is). Consider some other words like geinōjin / geinoujin (芸能人), engisha (演技者), etc. instead.
・Servant (Meshitsukai): meshitsukai (召使) does mean servant or menial, indeed; although such words might imply different nuances than their equivalents in certain cultures. Also, consider some other words like shimobe (下部), kerai (家来), etc. instead.
・Undertaker (Sougiya): Although funerals and graves do exist in Japan, Western-style burials employing funeral directors and morticians are relatively modern inventions (compared to the game’s supposed setting). Sougiya (葬儀屋) is a specific term, referring to the latter; which seems to be confirmed by the character’s weapon: a Shovel. I would suggest considering some other words like onbō / onbou (隠亡) [cemetery guard / crematorium worker], hakamori (墓守り) [gravekeeper], hakahori (墓掘り) [gravedigger], etc. instead.
・Tetsu Katana (Iron Sword): This sounds like a weirdly awkward combination of words; plus if you use tekkō (鉄甲) for iron knuckles and tessen (鉄扇) for iron fan, then for iron sword, tekken (鉄剣) would be the most obvious and proper choice.
・Ō-yoroi Armor: ō-yoroi (大鎧) means “great armour” or “big armour”; yoroi (鎧) might suffice in itself.
Please note that I have no intention to criticise or nit-pick here. On the contrary, I would fully understand if you are not interested in such details, but since I do like the basic idea, I just thought I would comment on this particular aspect of it.
Woah dang this is incredible, thank you! These are exactly the kind of details that push the limits of my admittedly mainstream, generic, western based knowledge and that I absolutely want to get right. Definitely taking all of this into account for next edits (coming soon because of formatting issues in v0.4). Certainly feel free to let me know any other things that stand out to you, but may I also reach out for additional input if I have questions? Thank you!
Sure, anytime.
Excellent project! If you need any help, count on me!
Thanks! Expect me to bug you in the near future!